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PureLock Review

Published in blog, Highline, Longline, Review
by Tom Peek

Hey everyone! Today, we’ll be writing a review about the PureLock, the new all-in-one linelocker from the Australian brand Pure Slacklines. Before I’ll get into detail, I must make a sidenote that I could be partly biased. I’m working for one of the major slackline brands at the moment (insiders know which one), and we are also selling one of the direct competitors of the PureLock. However when I am not working, I am an avid slackliner and gear enthousiast. I received one PureLock a few weeks ago, and I have put it to use quite a few times. This hopefully puts me in a good position to write some words about the PureLock.

First of all, let’s start with the design. As soon as I received the box, I was amazed by the lack of weight. It was hard to believe that there was a weblock and a shackle inside. The PureLock is CNC milled from a block of 7075 aluminium, which seems to become the standard nowadays for weblocks. Due to this, the PureLock weighs a total of 243 grams.

The design is different from all weblocks on the market and slighty reminds of Landcruisings Airbow + Lockman combination, which has only been in prototype production so far. It consists of an aluminium shackle body and a lock insert. There are a few interesting things here. First of all, there is an aluminium shackle which is used in a very clever way. The front pin as the shackle also acts as the front pin of the weblock. This saves a lot of weight, and allows for a variety of connections to be made straight to the shackle bow. The lock insert can be removed and added easily from the shackles body.

It seems fairly big in comparison to other weblocks (see picture), but it is lighter than any other weblock + shackle combination. Only the Lynx 4 beats it at 197g and 230g, but they don’t come with a built-in shackle. All in all, I think it’s impressive to offer a weblock and a shackle at such weight and size. Even just the aluminium shackle would be a joy to use on projects where light weight is required. The bow is a fairly bit bigger than the bow of a standard 12mm stainless steel shackle. I find that especially on highliners, a bigger shackle bow allows your rig to equalize better when you are working with strands of static rope or multiple strands of spansets. This brings me to the functionality part of the PureLock.

The most noteworthy thing here is the fact that there is a shackle built into the weblock which you can access. This means you can install it directly in pulleys, to slings, to a soft-release system or as your main anchor point on a highline setup. Once your shackle is in place, you can insert the locking part and your shackle will be closed. The huge variety is a big plus for this weblock. For highlines, I like building my anchors from static rope. The PureLock seems perfect for this, as the shackle bow has enough space to accomodate many strands of spansets. In the pictures I have used 8mm rope. In this way it offers the same benefits as a Ramlock, with an added pretensioning function. You don’t need any other connectors for this weblock, as the weblock is the connecter itself. This function we have seen in weblocks with a double push pin, but they don’t have the ability to be tri-loaded. Versatilty is the key feature of the PureLock, and it does a pretty good job at it!

However, in my opinion it is not yet the perfect weblock design. The function to use your weblock as a rigging plate has been really useful to me, and is something that I would miss when creating lightweight rigging systems. Hopefully in the future, gear designers will be able to combine all these functions into the first true all-in-one multi purpose weblock. Still, I would absolutely take the PureLock for projects where a lightweight setup is required.

The construction is quite clever, and high quality springs are used to keep the shackle pin and lock insert in place. As Philipp Gesing mentioned in his review about the PureLock, the clicking noise sounds very clear and indicates a high quality weblock. So far, I have gently abused my PureLock. It has seen action on a waterline where it got wet and covered with sand. There seems to be no impact to the internal mechanisms, and I am fairly sure it would hold up well in the future. One note: it’s easier to replace a push pin on a weblock than any part of the PureLock. On the same note, I would have really liked to see a small cord keeping the lock insert and shackle connected. Pure Slacklines did a good job by eliminating the need for a cord cor the pin, but I’m sure I’ll be really, really careful when handling my PureLock in places where a dropped lock insert would mean a failed project.

Now let’s talk about how the PureLock actually does as a weblock. Attaching goes easy, thanks to the big bow. The lock insert slides in fine and easy, and you can install your webbing. It’s easy that you can install the pushpin easily with one hand, as it’s captive and will always be pushed in straight. Once it locks (click!) into place, you are ready to pretension. It pretensions smooth and well, also with a Buckingham system. However, the side plates are quite low. It doesn’t hold a 1.5 wrap, double wrap or double webbing. Because of the low sideplates, the mainline would ‘walk’ out of the weblock a lot faster than on other weblocks, especially with thicker webbings. This is something to pay attention to when highlining with the low tensions nowadays with all weblocks, but especially with this one.

Another small note: the PureLock is really not easy to open with one hand. You need two hands to operate the device, and take the front pin out. I found this out when hanging with one hand from a branch 5 meter above the ground while derigging a waterline.

All in all it’s a really interesting weblock. The design shies away from the conventional one with two (bent) sideplates. This is a development that I can only encourage. It does many things well, many things exceptionally well (low weight, versatility), and some things not-so-well. It is surely in the top of the market when it comes to design, production and quality. I am sure I’ll have one in my pack regularly, as the versatility and low weight overcome the minor flaws that it has. Overall, it is a good weblock, but not perfect in my opinion. The perfect weblock still needs to be invented. I am interested to see how the PureLock holds up against it’s German counterpart which is still in prototype phase, the Landcruising Airbolt.

Soon we will take a look at the SeaHorse from Slacktivity, another weblock that offers some unique innovations and key features. Perhaps I’ll review some more weblocks if there is a demand for it!

Informatie over geneesmiddelen verandert regelmatig. Sommige geneesmiddelen zijn populair. Andere werken voor bepaalde ziekten zoals schizofrenie. Typisch, zowel mannen als vrouwen hebben last van seksuele disfuncties. Als u geïnteresseerd bent in viagra bestellen zijn waarschijnlijk wensen u om te leren over viagra 100mg. Wellicht weet je over “viagra kopen“. De meest gedenkwaardige wat je moet zoeken is “viagra voor vrouwen“. By the way, zijn er verschillende verklaringen en beroepsbeoefenaren in de gezondheidszorg zijn gewoonlijk in staat om uw probleem te lokaliseren door middel van psychologische tests. Sommige geneesmiddelen kunnen bijwerkingen veroorzaken. Dit geneesmiddel is alleen voor u. Nooit op te geven Viagra naar andere mensen, zelfs als de verschijnselen dezelfde zijn als de jouwe.

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Kraok Festival

Published in Highline, Shows
by Tom Peek

Written by Tom

Just before summer, Yuri called me with the good news that we landed a show at the end of summer, 5 kilometers from Tilburg. The upcoming summer had us all stoked, and the feeling of returning to a highline show in front of a home crowd only added to that. The lack of mountains usually makes it a bit more difficult to rig a highline, but fortunately Yuri assured us that we had plenty of solid, tall trees to anchor our lines to.

After a great, long summer of highlines and adventures we had the luxury of coming home to a highline show! Kraok Festival was where we could showcase our skills. The relaxed family-oriented festival with music, arts and lots of activities for kids was a perfect atmosphere for us. After some messing around with a 10m ladder, some tree climbing, and an easy setup, the line was done. It was a funny feeling to highline between the trees. Usually, we are surrounded by open space and below us are rocks. Now we were surrounded by trees and all we could see was green leaves.

The change of scenery inspired us to entertain everybody that came to watch us, and we had a great day. Yuri, Jonas and I all showed off by surfing and bouncing the line, going for some (non)exposures and some blindfolded walks. Till next time!

Informatie over geneesmiddelen verandert regelmatig. Sommige geneesmiddelen zijn populair. Andere werken voor bepaalde ziekten zoals schizofrenie. Typisch, zowel mannen als vrouwen hebben last van seksuele disfuncties. Als u geïnteresseerd bent in viagra bestellen zijn waarschijnlijk wensen u om te leren over viagra 100mg. Wellicht weet je over “viagra kopen“. De meest gedenkwaardige wat je moet zoeken is “viagra voor vrouwen“. By the way, zijn er verschillende verklaringen en beroepsbeoefenaren in de gezondheidszorg zijn gewoonlijk in staat om uw probleem te lokaliseren door middel van psychologische tests. Sommige geneesmiddelen kunnen bijwerkingen veroorzaken. Dit geneesmiddel is alleen voor u. Nooit op te geven Viagra naar andere mensen, zelfs als de verschijnselen dezelfde zijn als de jouwe.

Highline Workshop

Published in blog, Highline, Workshop
by Tom Peek

Slacklining is a sport that’s easy to pick up and practice by yourself, but almost impossible to master alone. Whether it’s the extensive knowledge required to get into longlining and highlining, the occasional motivational talks that help you push your own boundaries, or the great vibes spread throughout the slackline community, no one gets there alone. For us, the road to becoming solid highliners is marked by those that came before us and spread the stoke. I recall that knowledge on gear and highlining skills was hard to come by. Hours and hours were spent roaming the internet, to try and learn from more knowledgeable people than myself. Upon trying my first highline, I found out that only learning in theory was not sufficient, and I barely had any practical skills to help me overcome such a huge challenge. Also, I found out that trying to learn something new is hard when you are in a new environment, 50 meters above the ground, trying to keep your composure. Through trial, error and dedication I eventually managed to kill my fears and doubts, all while keeping my body under perfect control, but I took a route that was hard, and far from perfect. Since we believe anyone, no matter their athletic and/or mental background can highline, we wanted to make the process easier by preparing everybody that is interested in highlining. To achieve this, we have chosen to give a number of workshops aimed at learning all the skills necessary for highlining.

A location to give a slackline workshop in winter times is hard to come by. Luckily, we are good friends with Loïs de Jong, owner of Magma Media and the driving force behind the development of urban and freestyle sports in Tilburg. Together with the municipality and Mundial Productions he arranged the use of a perfect hall for us. Endless metal structures still standing from old industrial use provide us with plenty of anchoring possibilities for all kinds of slacklines. However, a hall and good intentions is only the beginning.

With our workshops we want to create an environment where newcomers to slacklining have a safe environment to learn how to slackline, but we also want to cater to the more advanced slackliners. We tried to achieve this partly by rigging some tricklines and longlines with mats underneath so people can experiment freely, but mostly by giving workshops where we share knowledge and techniques that will aid you in becoming a better slackliner. To give the most educational workshops, we invited some slack liners from the Dutch community, who are really advanced in their field. It’s naïve to assume we know the most in all fields of slack lining and rigging. Also, these workshops are not about us, but giving a people the best opportunities to learn and get better and this is done the best when we have more people than just us 4 available. We had a nice workshop on tying knots, given by knotting and knitting lover Cor Vinke. Additionally, Luck van Nispen and Soraya Schultz gave a workshop on rodeolines.
Jonas, Yuri, David and I gave workshops on all the essential highline skills. We had different stations for learning a leash-climb, chongo mount or other sit-starts, rolling around the line and using a line-slide.

The day itself went perfect. From last edition we learned that 4 people is not nearly enough to make everything go right. With help from our loving girlfriends, sister and friends we had enough people to be everywhere and create a wonderful atmosphere. Before the workshops even started, we had over 60 slackliners inside that were enjoying themselves on a variety of different kind of lines. Once the workshops started, the huge hall seemed packed with slackliners. Coming from all over our country and far beyond, we had a perfect mix of newcomers and advanced people. I found myself being so busy talking to everybody and walking around helping people that I barely had any time to look around and enjoy the wonderful vibes. Then the workshops started, which were great fun to give. Having people full of energy, willing to learn and try hard is really energizing!

In the end, we had 130 slackliners attending our workshops. A number we couldn’t have hoped to achieve when the idea of giving workshops came to mind. Out of all these people, there were many familiar faces that I have encountered while slacklining all around the country myself. What surprised me was the amount of people that I didn’t know! There were countless of participants that were incredibly skilled and motivated that I had never even heard of. This showed me that our scene and sport is bigger than we thought before, which is great. Maybe most importantly it showed that there are indeed people that were in a position we were in years ago and that can benefit greatly from the newly acquired knowledge and skills. Reaching out to this specific crowd is exactly what we wanted to achieve with our workshop, and it’s safe to say it’s been even more successful than we could have dreamed.

Informatie over geneesmiddelen verandert regelmatig. Sommige geneesmiddelen zijn populair. Andere werken voor bepaalde ziekten zoals schizofrenie. Typisch, zowel mannen als vrouwen hebben last van seksuele disfuncties. Als u geïnteresseerd bent in viagra bestellen zijn waarschijnlijk wensen u om te leren over viagra 100mg. Wellicht weet je over “viagra kopen“. De meest gedenkwaardige wat je moet zoeken is “viagra voor vrouwen“. By the way, zijn er verschillende verklaringen en beroepsbeoefenaren in de gezondheidszorg zijn gewoonlijk in staat om uw probleem te lokaliseren door middel van psychologische tests. Sommige geneesmiddelen kunnen bijwerkingen veroorzaken. Dit geneesmiddel is alleen voor u. Nooit op te geven Viagra naar andere mensen, zelfs als de verschijnselen dezelfde zijn als de jouwe.

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Belgium Dreams and Disappointments

Published in blog, Highline, Projects
by Tom Peek

Text by TomPhotos by: Martin Watters
www.martinwatters.comAfter having some great experiences in Belgium with highlining recently, we decided to try and repeat one of the most beautiful urban lines in Belgium. Already established by BeSlackers, 40 meters long and 40 meters high between two old mine cranes, it would be a great way to enjoy a beautiful view over the Belgium landscape. Some online ninja work by Florian Beyer was needed to find the exact location, before we could really start planning. The night before, Jens and Flo from Germany arrived in Tilburg to join us on this mission. Leaving at 7am, all that was standing in between walking the line was a two and a half hour drive and an easy rig, or so we thought…

Arriving on the scene, the cranes looked incredibly huge and strong from a distance. We decided to go take a closer look, but none of us expected what we found. After climbing a five meter high ladder, there was a set of stairs running up completely along the internal tower up till the highest point. In theory, the best and safest way to get to a highline, but in reality there was danger all around. The crane was completely rusted through, and entire sections of stairs had fallen down completely. The plates to stand on had giant holes in them, many steps were missing and some others would have fallen down in case we had stepped on them. Climbing up on the beams also wouldn’t have been an option, since beams the size of my upper leg rusted through and disappeared.

After checking out both sides and discussing with the group for about three hours, we could not find a safe way to make it to the top of the cranes. In case of stairs, steps or beams breaking we could not only fall down ourselves, but also drop huge, heavy pieces of metal onto our friends below us. Often we get called daredevils or risk takers for what we do, but safety for ourselves and our environment is the most important standard in our sport. Highlining is our biggest passion, but when you get faced with these challenges you have to stay realistic and make the right choice. Deciding to walk away from what would have been a beautiful project is probably even more difficult than walking the line itself. If it can’t be done in a safe, responsible way it’s just not worth it.

To deal with this disappointment, we decided to eat a huge amount of Belgian fries. It was during this potato feast that we came with a new idea: One of us had spotted some old abandoned buildings close-by and we all felt like doing some urban exploring. After walking around a bit, Jonas and me decided to enter an old office to wander around. We made it to the dusty attic and when we looked through one of the small windows we saw a super obvious highline waiting to be established. We shortly checked through the room for anchor points, and there were plenty of solid wooden beams to anchor from. It took some time to access the other side of the building, but eventually we found a way in and spotted bomber anchor points as well.

We had to make a quick decision, whether to go home without doing anything, or establishing a really small new highline between these abandoned buildings. It didn’t take us long to decide we needed to do this to get our spirits high again, but also because establishing any new line is fun for me. It’s a great feeling to be in a space that no one has been in before. Walking a line for the first time also gives you a unique view of the scenery you are in, from an angle that no one has looked at it before. It would also be disappointing for the guys from Kassel to drive 600 kilometers just to look at two rusty cranes. After knocking out some windows and making a small plan, we were ready to start rigging finally!

50 meters of static rope provided for a safe, redundant anchor on one side, while Jonas equalized a few beams in the attic on the other side. We decided to skip the tensioning process, because at this length it just isn’t necessary. There’s something really calm in walking a highline without tension, and I am curious to find out what the limitations in length are for this type of highlines. We all walked the line both ways on the first try, and played around for a while before we decided to take it down. Funny thing is that while standing in exposure, you had a perfect look over the two old cranes towering out of the landscape.

This project wasn’t about a mental or physical challenge on the line, but more about redemption for some of the disappointments you have to deal with as a highliner. I’ve never spotted a line, to be standing on it an hour later. Seeing a project in such a location and realizing it immediately gives a different kind of satisfaction than getting a new personal record. In the end, the Kassel boys continued their trip to beautiful Freyr, while the Dreamwalkers started preparing for another project in the early morning next day, which turned out to be the Morning Glory line.

Informatie over geneesmiddelen verandert regelmatig. Sommige geneesmiddelen zijn populair. Andere werken voor bepaalde ziekten zoals schizofrenie. Typisch, zowel mannen als vrouwen hebben last van seksuele disfuncties. Als u geïnteresseerd bent in viagra bestellen zijn waarschijnlijk wensen u om te leren over viagra 100mg. Wellicht weet je over “viagra kopen“. De meest gedenkwaardige wat je moet zoeken is “viagra voor vrouwen“. By the way, zijn er verschillende verklaringen en beroepsbeoefenaren in de gezondheidszorg zijn gewoonlijk in staat om uw probleem te lokaliseren door middel van psychologische tests. Sommige geneesmiddelen kunnen bijwerkingen veroorzaken. Dit geneesmiddel is alleen voor u. Nooit op te geven Viagra naar andere mensen, zelfs als de verschijnselen dezelfde zijn als de jouwe.

405m World Record Longline

Published in blog, Longline, Projects
by Tom Peek

Text by Yuri
“I stared in the distance. The far, far point of the end in the distance. It was too far away to even think about walking this thing, this line, this beast completely, so I just stared down for a minute. Getting ready. A deep breath, and I stood up.”

The idea

August. I have been traveling from country to country, highline to highline, friend to friend. Philipp Gesing told me about this project he wanted to do. A LONG one. 440m long to be exact and he said he even had the perfect spot. The webbing he would get from GAMBIT-slacklines, the pulley system rope from slackliner.de, and all this would take place at the end of October. It all sounded a bit silly, since my longest line so far was not even half of that (211m) and I was nowhere near ready for a line this big, mentally or physically. Stubborn me, I started training two weeks after my holiday ended (14th of September). One month to go!

The training

Longlining is all about endurance, mentally as well as physically, controlling the weight of the line you’re walking. The heavier the line, the stronger the vibrations will be, and the heavier it will be on the core. Thus, long heavy lines can drain LOTS of energy very quickly, if you fight with the line too much. You really need to relax and not allow the vibrations to develop in the first place. The 440m would be just over 25kg so I decided to completely focus my training on this number. To assure myself of success, I decided I needed to walk a line which was at least 3kg heavier, so I asked Jonas to use his 150m piece of heavy Black & White to double up with mine. Once I had this, it was time to train heavy!


155m double Black & White (Slacktivity, 178g/m): 27.6kg

Being 10kg heavier than the heaviest line I ever tried, I thought I had no chance. Weirdly enough I walked until 30 meters before the end without falling during the first session, which gave me a lot of hope for actually having a chance at the 440m. The thing with lines like these and a flat ground without natural dip, is that you have to hang them very high (4-4,5m) to actually make them comparable to a single line with the same weight. This means, when you fall near the ends, you absolutely HAVE to catch the line, otherwise there is a big chance of breaking yourself, as I nearly did just at the start of my training. Near the end of my second session I came close to crossing the line. I was about three meters away from the ground, feeling very loose, and trusting my catching skills absolutely. I lost balance, reached for the line with my left hand and… I missed. For one endless second I was weightless in the air. I didn’t really know what was happening, but it felt great. Then I landed on the right side of my back, and I couldn’t breathe anymore. I was rolling around like this for about 10 seconds. People were standing around me, asking if they should call the ambulance. Luckily my friend Annelies came quickly running from the other side of the line, and told the people it was ok. I lay on my back for a few minutes and besides being a bit stiff, everything was fine. I guess this was a fair warning that I’m a bit more vulnerable then I realized.
After about six of these two to four hour sessions I finally sent the line fully without falling. Training was far from done, though, so time for the next step… 185m double! Since I already wrote a blog about this line, I won’t bore you with the details, but just post the link here; http://www.dreamwalkers.nl/longline-training-double-185m/

One week to go

Endurance: 60m double Core2HS
One week before the record attempt, I still had to train my endurance. After all, I would need about 30 minutes of walking to cross the line, in my estimation. So I put on 1kg weights on both my wrists, and had three sessions of one long, continuous 500m walk along the 60m line. Feeling far from ready (besides, I didn’t stand on a single strand line for over 2 months, oops), I left Holland and started my hitchhiking.

One day left

Philipp and I decided to set up a training line before we would actually rig the beast the following day. 335m of single line (finally some single line training). Even though we had a great 9:1 pulley system with an MPD as brake, having only two people to rig this line was a bit ambitious. After pulling in about 150m of rope, with just one meter of pulley system left, the line was far from completely tensioned. The natural dip was about 8-9m, however at this low tension there would have needed to be an additional 3m of sag for the line to be walkable all the way. Luckily it was possible to walk to a third and after a few attempts I managed to do this pretty smoothly without falling, but this was still a LOT shorter than the actual line… The line was very powerful and I was completely drained after walking about 200m of the line in total. I began to lose hope for the line the next day.
Just before we left we checked out the 440m spot. Since it was not such a good spot, and we’d have to be at least 5m in the tree on one side, we decided we would go a bit shorter, and we found the perfect spot for: 405m, ~4m natural sag, 3m high anchor on one side, and 4m on the other side.


Record attempt day

Since there was seven people, it was a lot easier to tension the lines. Hari (Helmut Netzwerker) and I started to set up the 405m line, and the others worked on a 280m nylon line. First we tensioned the 280 with everyone, and then went over to the 405m polyester line to make it walkable. I was getting a bit nervous. What if I had no chance at all? Would all my hard work have been for nothing?
Almost ready, we let the line relax a bit and had a quick lunch, because the last thing we would want is to hit the ground after walking 300m of the line. However, I just needed to try the line, I was too nervous to wait. I think Hari noticed this, because within one minute he was there to help me tension. Quickly it was done, and I immediately got onto the line. I stared in the distance. The far, far point of the end in the distance. It was too far away to even think about walking this thing, this line, this beast completely, so I just stared down for a minute. Getting ready. A deep breath, and I stood up.

The Walk

To my surprise, the line didn’t do anything, and I was completely calm. I started walking quicker and quicker. It was like it was walking on a 20 meter line. Why was it so still? Was the hard part about to hit me and throw me off? I didn’t have any music on, so I heard the people talking. “Man, is he going to onsight it?”, after walking 100m of the line flawlessly in the first 5 minutes. “Shut up” was my reaction (sorry Dan). I couldn’t think about sending. Sooner or later I would make a misstep, that was one thing I knew for sure.


Halfway. Everything had gone smoothly so far, but now the fight began. The first time I gave a shake to the line. I wasn’t ready for the super delayed oscillations that a huge line like this would produce. My body reacted too quickly, which meant I only shook the line more. For about half a minute I was standing in one position, fighting the line, not thinking about going any further. I shouted as loud as I could, and at that moment my muscles relaxed and slowly but steadily the shakes stopped and I continued walking.
So far I’ve only been looking down, not more than 10 meters in front of me. I quickly glanced up to see how far I’d come. It felt like I would never reach the end. About 200m to go, more than 500 perfect steps in front of me. It seemed impossible.


The last quarter. I felt everyone staring at me in my back. I still didn’t think I would make it. The last 50 meters quickly went up to 4 meters of the ground, and usually I have a really hard time with the end. I wasn’t too nervous. After all, I wouldn’t make it all the way to the end anyways, but it was a good try, right? Closer, 20 meters away from the end. Still no fight, the line got easier and easier. Wait… Can I really make this? The last 10 meters it struck me; I can actually walk this line! The line started vibrating rapidly under my feet, I stood on one leg, fought, regained myself, and started to almost run. 5 meters to go, I heard people yelling, but I wasn’t there yet. 3… 2… 1… I screamed. I had made it!


Informatie over geneesmiddelen verandert regelmatig. Sommige geneesmiddelen zijn populair. Andere werken voor bepaalde ziekten zoals schizofrenie. Typisch, zowel mannen als vrouwen hebben last van seksuele disfuncties. Als u geïnteresseerd bent in viagra bestellen zijn waarschijnlijk wensen u om te leren over viagra 100mg. Wellicht weet je over “viagra kopen“. De meest gedenkwaardige wat je moet zoeken is “viagra voor vrouwen“. By the way, zijn er verschillende verklaringen en beroepsbeoefenaren in de gezondheidszorg zijn gewoonlijk in staat om uw probleem te lokaliseren door middel van psychologische tests. Sommige geneesmiddelen kunnen bijwerkingen veroorzaken. Dit geneesmiddel is alleen voor u. Nooit op te geven Viagra naar andere mensen, zelfs als de verschijnselen dezelfde zijn als de jouwe.